Aug
2012, another email, Michelle Schaller,
Australia
I recently received an original copy
of the same photo (see page1) which
belonged to my grandfather. It’s is in much
better condition and all of the faces are
clear....... I’ve also
attached a short history of the people in the
photo .....
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What a
wonderful family photo and a lifetime honour for
family, friends and indeed the world
to see these photos and read about the lives of
the individuals here on GlescaPals........ |
Photo taken c1905 |
John
Geddes was born on 18th July
1857 at 63 Tobago St,
Glasgow. He was the eldest son of George
Geddes (Snr) and Christina Cain. John is
listed as having a number of occupations
during his lifetime (all in Glasgow).
Journeyman/Joiner at the time of his marriage
in 1880, but by the 1881 census he is listed
as a Sand Merchant with 6 employees. In 1891
he was a Ferry Lessee. In 1901 he was a
Dredging and Diving Contractor until the time
of his death from apoplexy, on the 12th
May 1908 at 45 Gallowflat St, Rutherglen.
I have his business card from his time as a
Contractor.. His business was based at Ruskin
Terrace. On the back of the card he has listed
‘Contracts in Hand’ No’s 1,2,3,4
and 5 Clyde Embankments for Glasgow
Corporation and Shawfield Sand Quarry.
John is
only ever listed as John Geddes on Scottish
legal documents (birth/death/marriage). Yet
any Australian family obituaries after his
death mention him as John Graham Geddes.
NB: It
was John’s younger brother George
(shown in the photo in front of the Humane
Society Boathouse above) who followed in
George Snr’s footsteps as the ‘2nd
George’ at the Humane Society.
NB:
Interestingly John’s father, George Snr is
listed in historical records as an orphan from
birth and he was farmed out to a family
unknown. This isn’t completely factual as his
father lived until George was about 6 years
old. It is quite probable his mother Marion
nee Wallace died near/during his birth in
1826, but his father John Ferrie Geddes didn’t
die until the first major Glasgow
Cholera Epidemic of 1832. He was one of 3,000
lost to Cholera at the time. He was buried on
23 July 1832. I can only assume John Ferrie
Geddes was unable to care for so many children
and specially a new baby, so fostered George
out. (George was the youngest of at least 10
children)
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John
married Eleanor Elizabeth Borle on 1st
June 1880 at Stockwell Place, Glasgow
(Eleanor was b.1862 in Middlesex. Her father
was Swiss and her mother from Warwickshire)
After John (and her mother) died, Eleanor and
most of her children, eventually emigrated to
Western Australia in 1912. John and Eleanor’s
first child was my great grandmother Christina
Cain Geddes.
Note: John Geddes and Eleanor (nee Borle)
had at least two other known children who
didn’t survive infancy.
Marion Wallace Geddes was born April 1891
and died at Elm St, Glasgow in February 1892
of pneumonia.
Thomas Aitken Geddes was born February 1907
and died on 21st November at 6
Ruskin Terrace, Rutherglen of
broncho-pneumonia.
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Christina was born in
Claythorn
Street, Glasgow on 2nd
April 1881. Her first job was as a Mantle
Machinist and eventually she became a
dressmaker. She married Thomas Henderson
Hastie in Perthshire in 1904, where they had
two children. They had returned to
Glasgow by the 1911 census.
The newborn baby in the Geddes group photo is
Christina’s first child born in 1905, Eleanor
Elizabeth Simmonds Borle Geddes Hastie (what a
mouthful!). Her son from her marriage was more
fortunate, just having the birth name of
William Hastie.
After arriving in Australia, Christina left
Thomas and lived de-facto with my great
grandfather William Griffith Williams until
her death in 1936. They had one son and two
daughters (one daughter died as an infant in
Burma).
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Elizabeth Eleanor Simmonds
Geddes ‘Bessie’ was born in 1883.
She married William McBean on the 9th
July 1909 at 4 Sefton Terrace, Rutherglen.
Bessie was an Elementary School Teacher and
William a Police Constable in Glasgow.
They followed Bessie’s mother and emigrated to
Western Australia in 1913.
Bessie
died in 1945 and William in 1967. They had 3
children.
2,4 & 6 Sefton
Terrace (now Hamilton Road)
Sefton Terrace is now part of Hamilton Rd,
GlescaPal Norrie found
it on a 1920s map of Rutherglen
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Annie
Henderson Geddes was born c1885. She was
a clerical worker.
Annie married William Anderson Miller
(a Merchant) on 30th Dec.1909
at 6 Sefton Terrace, Rutherglen.
They had three sons and a daughter. In January
1921 William tragically died of Tuberculosis
at Plantation, Glasgow.
The widowed Annie followed her family to
Western Australia in July 1921. She later
remarried .
Annie died in January 1959
rear view of Sefton
Terrace (now Hamilton Road)
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George
Geddes was born in Glasgow on 20th
August 1886. He married Jessie McPhie
in 1910 at Pollokshields, Glasgow. In
1911 George and Jessie lived in 72 Woddrop
Street, Dalmarnock, Glasgow.
George was a Telephone engineer for the Post
Office. (now British Telecom)
George and Jessie emigrated to Western
Australia in 1913. They had 8 children.
George retired as the Officer in Charge of the
Central Telephone Exchange in 1951.
He died in 1957 and Jessie in 1966.
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John Graham Geddes was born on 4th
September 1888 at South York St, Glasgow.
He was listed as a Miner when he emigrated
with his mother and siblings.
He died less than 18 months after arriving in
Western Australia on 24th December
1913.
On his obituary his occupation was Contractor.
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Henry
Cain Geddes was born 26th
June 1892 at 64 Glasgow Road,
Rutherglen, Glasgow.
He arrived with his mother and siblings in
Western Australia in 1912.
He married Margaret Grier Miller in Perth, W.A
in 1914. They had three children. Harry
enlisted in the A.I.F in World War 1. He was
in the 1st Division Signal Corp as
a telephone mechanic.
Harry died in January 1946.
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Jeanie Morrison Smith Geddes was born
on 16th June 1895 at 83 Main
St, Rutherglen.
She married Rupert Harry Flanagan in
1924 in Cottesloe, Western Australia.
Jeanie died in 1956.
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Alfred Charles Borle Geddes was born on
2nd November 1897 at 10 Chapel
St, Rutherglen.
Alfred Charles Borle Geddes (Fred) enlisted in
1915 in the 37th battalion (World
War 1).
He was killed in Action 11th
February 1917 in France whilst attached to the
3rd Field Coy. Engineers.
He was 19.
GescaPals admin,
Norrie McNamee got these photos from
Rutherglen library
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Harvey
Alexander Geddes was born on 10th
September 1900 at 3 GallowFlat Place,
Rutherglen.
He married Jessie Pearl Francis Duncan
in Cottelsoe, Western Australia in 1927.
Harvey was an Electrical Engineer.
He died in 1981.
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GlescaPal 'glesca
artist' :
below
is NLS Map of Rutherglen 1910.
Gallowflat Place is
not marked on the map but I've indicated where
I'm 100% sure it was located.
Gallowflat Street, Rutherglen, only came into
being circa 1900. Previous to this date it was
known as Hamilton Road and the existing
Hamilton Road was known as Wardlawhill Street.
By 1910 new tenements had been built on the
east side of Gallowflat Street and round into
Gallowflat Place where
a Skating Rink had also been built opposite
the tenements and at the end of Gallowflat
Place.
Between 1910 and 1938 when the Wardlawhill and
Gallowflat areas were developed for housing
Gallowflat Place was
extended eastwards and became known as East
Main Street.
Looking
eastwards along East Main Street at Farmeloan
Rd junction.
GlescaPal admin, Norrie : Thanks are due to
'glesca artist' for the finding the location
of Gallowflat Place, it started at the corner
of Farmeloan Rd and was extended in the late
20s and renamed Main st, known locally as East
Main St.
GlescaPal
'glesca artist' :
the street
numbers start from the centre outwards with
the odd numbers on the left hand side. The
centre in this case being Farmeloan Road. I
believe number 3 Gallowflat Place would be
located where the new building in your
excellent photo is shown.
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Mary
Tasker Harris Geddes was born 28th
May 1903 at 5 Wardlaw Drive, Rutherglen,
Glasgow.
Mary Tasker Harris Geddes was the youngest
surviving child of John and Eleanor.
Mary married Sydney Frederick Norman
Anderson in 1927 at Cottesloe, Western
Australia. Mary died in 1970.
No.5 Wardlaw Drive
Photo taken from Hamilton
Road looking up into
Wardlaw Drive, No5 on the left
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Aug
2012, extract from email, Michelle Schaller,
Australia
Thank you so much for adding the
information on the photo!
Sadly, Ive never met any of my Geddes family.
Partly because I'm on the east coast of
Australia, and secondly, even though I’ve been
doing my family tree for over 30 years, it was
only about 6 years ago I started on my
grandfathers branch of my tree. I think
pulling teeth would have been
easier!
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schaller@tpg.com.au?subject=Geddes%20family%20-%20GlescaPals |
Aug.2012,
extract from messageboard, GlescaPal Lobeydosser,
83yrs, Canada
Great
article and photograph. I remember my grannie
chiding her daughter when she came home with
newly purchased footwear.
" Thae shoes ur faur too big fur
ye! They're mair lik' Geordie
Geddes's sma' boats than shoes!
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GlescaPal
Nell (admin), London
Loved
that Webmaister, a great photo and even better
to have all that information about the people
in the photo. As you know I am interested in
genealogy so I was particularly interested in
the photo and the wealth of information.
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GlescaPal
Caltoncuddy, South Australia
what a
fantastic article ,that's the best thing about
GlescaPals its great history thanks Webmaister
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Aug.2012,
Webmaister.
The
article has proven to be of great interest tae
the GlescaPals
A few members were interested in the families
Dalmarnock & Rutherglen connections.
John Geddes was born on 18th July 1857 at 63
Tobago St,
Elizabeth Eleanor Simmonds Geddes ‘Bessie’ 4
Sefton Terrace, Rutherglen
Annie Henderson Geddes was born abt 1885 6
Sefton Terrace, Rutherglen
Henry Cain Geddes was born 26th June 1892 at 64
Glasgow Road,
Rutherglen,
Jeanie Morrison Smith Geddes was born on 16th
June 1895 at 83 Main
St ?, Rutherglen
Alfred Charles Borle Geddes was born on 2nd
November 1897 at 10
Chapel St, Rutherglen
Harvey Alexander Geddes was born on 10th
September 1900 at 3
GallowFlat Place,
Rutherglen,
Mary Tasker Harris Geddes was born 28th May
1903 at 5
Wardlaw Dr, Rutherglen
George Geddes born Glasgow 20th August 1886.
In 1911 lived in 72
Woddrop Street, Dalmarnock
GlescaPals admin Norrie McNamee is
a keen photographer and lives in Rutherglen,
in August 2012 he set out to find these
address and get some photos. Well done,
Norrie.
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Glasgow
Humane Society post is currently
held by George Parsonage,
his house is
in Glasgow Green near the Peoples Palace (
more info and photo's to
follow)
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http://glasgowhumanesociety.co.uk/ |
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